this has some good thoughts on liminality. you might actually be interested in how it applies to ritual (i'm not sure if Indian rituals are still a formal source for you but it's worth a look).
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"Just as chaos is the source of order, liminality represents the unlimited possibilities from which social structure emerges. While in the liminal state, human beings are stripped of anything that might differentiate them from their fellow human beings—they are in between the social structure, temporarily fallen through the cracks, so to speak, and it is in these cracks, in the interstices of social structure, that they are most aware of themselves."
This statement is the easiest to make comparisons to my interest in liminality. In Vedic Science (you know, the philosophy of the vedas, the basic underpinnings of indian philosophy and Hinduism), there is the concept of the gap. All diversity, all materiality collapses into the gap. The gap is a place of pure potential and power out of which all manifestations emerge. all the structure of the universe emerges from this gap. The gap is the transcendent, the quiet state that can be reached in meditation. The concept of the gap can be applied to pretty much anything. To social structure as turner has or to speech (the pauses between words and sentences as what generates meaning, humor).
I guess in the current composition I sent to you, the question for me arises of the space in between the layers. I want to play up in the future the connections between layers. And the body existing either within those layers or 'betwixt and between' those layers.
you know, the word "power" never came into my thesis proposal, but i think at the core of it, that's why i am so attracted to the liminal. there is incredible potential and power in it, power (and freedom) to move / act more freely than you could within a social hierarchy.
Power in completely opposite sense from the gap .... the power rules/regulations and you know the whole established power have over us i bet interests you too. That is the power that controls us. Just like the images of the body we are bombarded with. The power that shackles us and makes us downtrodden
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"Just as chaos is the source of order, liminality represents the unlimited possibilities from which social structure emerges. While in the liminal state, human beings are stripped of anything that might differentiate them from their fellow human beings—they are in between the social structure, temporarily fallen through the cracks, so to speak, and it is in these cracks, in the interstices of social structure, that they are most aware of themselves."
This statement is the easiest to make comparisons to my interest in liminality. In Vedic Science (you know, the philosophy of the vedas, the basic underpinnings of indian philosophy and Hinduism), there is the concept of the gap. All diversity, all materiality collapses into the gap. The gap is a place of pure potential and power out of which all manifestations emerge. all the structure of the universe emerges from this gap. The gap is the transcendent, the quiet state that can be reached in meditation. The concept of the gap can be applied to pretty much anything. To social structure as turner has or to speech (the pauses between words and sentences as what generates meaning, humor).
totally interested in the concept of the liminal in ritual. Totally makes sense and connects with my interests
I guess in the current composition I sent to you, the question for me arises of the space in between the layers. I want to play up in the future the connections between layers. And the body existing either within those layers or 'betwixt and between' those layers.
you know, the word "power" never came into my thesis proposal, but i think at the core of it, that's why i am so attracted to the liminal. there is incredible potential and power in it, power (and freedom) to move / act more freely than you could within a social hierarchy.
Power in completely opposite sense from the gap ....
the power rules/regulations and you know the whole established power have over us i bet interests you too. That is the power that controls us. Just like the images of the body we are bombarded with. The power that shackles us and makes us downtrodden
i meant power more as in proactive, agency, the ability to move. not power as "the man" or something. clearer?
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